I worked at a web hosting company for almost a year doing billing and tech support and very rarely found forums that were as helpful and had such fast responses.
Special thanks to Lithotech for all of the information and suggestions. I am very interested in hearing how I can "split my OS's between two systems" If you could provide a link or site that could give some info on how to do that would be great.
Taking everyones recommendation I will back up my data and start with small freq increases etc. I will only try small increases and proceed cautiously until I can upgrade my hardware,
quote:Special thanks to Lithotech for all of the information and suggestions. I am very interested in hearing how I can "split my OS's between two systems" If you could provide a link or site that could give some info on how to do that would be great.
Whoops, missread your post, or forgot about the no disks part. I thought you had two COA's or installs, regular XP Pro and XP64. I figured you could use one COA on the AMD system and use the second COA on a future upgrade.
I know what I would try, and have done it successfully before, however it more often fails than succeeds. Simply jack the drive into the new computer, cross your fingers and boot it up. If it bluescreens, then you have only one other thing to try (that I know of) and that is to boot in safe mode. If it gets to the desktop in safe mode, uninstall all the old mobo's drivers and try booting again. You could even uninstall all the drivers before you pull the drive from the old system, that would be better -- something I don't always have the option of.
It does work, sometimes. In fact, if the mobos are the same chipset, or even the same type of chipset, it usually always works. It might take a bit of massaging to get the OS back up and everything working, but it is worth the effort because all the apps and settings and personal files, everything, is still intact.
Failing that, you only need to deal with one COA, the one for the new system, down the road. Windows XP Home or Vista Home Premium is selling for just under or just over $100 these days, OEM copy but that's all anyone needs. The price is fair enough, compared to the gouge they charge for a retail copy. It hurts bad when you can build someone a very nice basic system for just over $200, and have to spend a full half more of that for the OS. But the system is useless without it, and most everyone needs a legit copy to get proper updates and not fear it phoning home. It's a pretty easy sell for my clients who don't already own a copy and are maybe upgrading from Win98/95/ME -- yes, I get clients that are still using PIII's and even PIIs. LOL, they are old folks, get 10+ years out of a system.
Maybe someone could verify, but I believe you can download a Windows XP installer disk, which will run on a 30 day trial that by the end of the 30 days you need to activate it with a valid key, which you can purchase and enter in at that time. Simply download the installer, burn it to disk, run it on a spare (DOH! New...) hard drive and try to activate it with the key that your currently using. This will verify whether your license will work or not. If it doesn't, fine, you can pick up a copy later. If it does, great!
-------------------- DFI Ultra-D X2-3800 LCBIE 0619 RPMW 2.7ghz @1.4v OCZ Elites TCCD 2.5-4-3-7 @2.7v 2x250gb WD SE16 Raid 0 You don't learn by doing things right! Posts: 16 | From: North Van Rain Belt | Registered: May 2007
I just installed an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 dropped my temps 15░C full load. Now I can get to 2.8 under 50░C. I just have one Question what voltage do I believe software or BIOS. Right know bios set at 1.275 software reports 1.41 under load.
-------------------- 3600+ X2 Brisbane @ 2.8(9.5 x 294) Biostar TForce 550 SE Corsair Value 5300 4GB EVGA 8800 GT Western Digital 80GB Antec 450W Posts: 18 | From: Canada | Registered: May 2007
dreamliner77- If nothing else solves your problems, I would try two things. One install a fresh OS on an unused HDD install basic chipset drivers etc, and run cpuz as well as cbid and see if the problem persists.
Two take apart the pc and using compressed air, blow all the dust out of all the little crevices on all the components you are using. Look for wires with worn insulation and anything else that might cause intermittent shorts.
-edit- one more thing. When you put the pc back together use the fresh os and install only basic components then check with cpuz and cbid. interchange parts till you find the faulty part.
CBID is a small program similar to cpuz it stands for central brain identifier. I've found it to be as reliable as cpuz. You could use it to verify that the info in cpuz is correct and not just some odd quirk.
I reimaged back to an older image and it looks like it's brought back some stability so it's probably a Windows problem. I will do a clean XP install as soon as I have some free time.
Another question... has anyone had the NB fan start to go? Mine is getting loud. I have a Zalman flower to go on the NB, I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this? I could just replace the fan too, I have a Silenx 40mm fan I could throw on.
-------------------- 3600 Brisbane @ 2914 (9.5 x 306) Biostar Tforce 550SE Wintec Ampx DDR2-800 @ 833 (5,5,5,16) Asus Radeon 1600 Pro (passive cooling) Zalman 9500 Posts: 41 | From: US | Registered: Mar 2007
lucidvideo: you may want to try mediacoder if you dont know about it, its a FREE tool thats pretty easy to use but also VERY advanced for what it offers, it can transcode/encode video and audio to/from pretty much any format you can find.
personaly i convert anime and movies from various formats to x264+vorbis audio, on my firstname.lastname@example.org(is stable at 2.9 but i like to back off a bit to be 100% sure its rock solid) 4gb ram under windows x64, depending on the resolution and filters/settings used fps of the encode tend to be between 35fps for easy 1:1 encodes of quility dvd res videos and for HD content it drops to 15 range, still this is better then it was at stock.
my advice would be to consider a 5000+ black edition as every body i know has gotten 3gz or better out of them on their tf550 boards, these are not skilled overclockers for the most part they are people i showed the VERY basics to then let them learn as they went.
As said by others use orthos or prime95 to test the system for 24hrs, really if you follow the rules of thumb for your chip you should beable to get a decent overclock without alot of hassles, an advanced overclock can take a week or more to find, but thats now for noobs.
do some research about your chip, see what settings other people are using to get their overclocks with simlar or the same hardware, If your 3600+(isnt that what somebody had if not you?) is windsor i cant help much for settings, if its a brissy then run over to ashentech.com and post asking JC316 for his settings/experiance, he owned 3 or 4 diffrent 550/3600+ combos and got great overclocks on them all(yes orthos tested!!!!)
now for other things that REALLY help video encoding.
using 2 or more Seagate perpendicular recording drives, 1 with the origal file the other for encoding to, this helps keep the drives from being the bottle neck.
more ram, yes i know some apps cant take advantege of it, but in my exp mediacoder can take advantage of more ram IF YOU HAVE IT, i can set mediacoder to use 2gb of my ram for encoding if i wish. if your in the states newegg has a KICKASS adata extream ddr2 800 cas4 kit for like 40-45bucks(per 2gb kit)
all these things really can help with encoding, not gonna see a dubble in perf probbly but if you can balance your cpu overclock and ram settings and add a matched set of newer hdd's that will help alot.
and to be clear you do not need raptors, the extra RPM's are great for access/seek times, but dont help transfer speed at all, if you keep your drives defraged(the ones you use for encoding from/to) you will find that 2 larger seagate 7200rpm sata2 hdds will serve you better then a couple smaller raptors.
just my personal exp, i been encoding GIGS of anime for backup/portable use as well as backing up my dvd collection to my computer(i use it to watch movies anyway )
now about the bios for the tf550 i need to email biostar again and ask where our phenom bios are, not that i care at the moment, i wont get one till the b3's are out, but still it would be nice of biostar got the bios they pointblank told me would be avalable up and avalable for 550/550se users.
well as i said, honestly i would post asking jc316 over on ashentech if your overclocking a 3600+ on a tf550/550se since he has ALOT of exp with those chips(he thought he killed 1 set but it was his antech psu dieing!!!)
Posts: 42 | From: USA | Registered: Nov 2006
guys!! help me. why my X2 3600 windsor + TF550SE doesn't up to 3.0 ghz?? First, I think the problem is from my batch processor. I've got "ADO3600CUBOX" batch, and i was browsing, then that batch isn't recommended for overclocking..that is true??? for now i'm running to 2.7 with vcore 1.575v...
Posts: 3 | From: Indonesia | Registered: Feb 2008