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Polygon
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The 1st board I had was bad. The second board acts like a totally different board then the 1st, and it's nothing but good!

The board, in spite of a few BIOS quirks, is a major overclocker, especially with the Vdimm and Vcore mods installed.

All my testing was done with the OCWB1 BIOS, but 1.20, 1.30, 1.40, and 1.41 only go to 300HTT. Cold/warm boot issue is severe in these versions...

All tests were performed running a Venice 3200 and a EVGA PCX5750 Video card. There is something quirky about the AGP on the board and in the BIOS, as lowering the "AGP Aperture Size" increases the Overclocking ability. More to come on this....

The board prefers G.Skill "LE" TCCD Memory; Patriot "XBLK" being a very close 2nd. Both Hynix chip and BH-5 chip modules, run respectably well on the board. This is now the 2nd 64 Bit board I've tested that likes Hynix and that's a plus...

This is a fine, well made, inexpensive motherboard, that anyone would be proud to own....

Here's the G.Skill "LE" 2X512 9X320, 3X, 200 2T 2.5-4-8-3:  -

Thanks to the recently released Memtest86 1.65, we can display the Chipset information... [Smile]  -


And the test setup, Maze4 water-cooled, of course... [Big Grin]  -

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Polygon
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I can verify that there is no overclocking difference when using either AGP or a PCX Video Card... I'm now running 9X320 with a AGP card....

There does seem to be something that makes Windows freeze at 275-320 on occasion, but once it doesn't, it never does unless one plays with the BIOS. Letting the system sit for 5 minutes with no power to the PSU and then boot, seems to make a difference. It may even be my Tagan 480W PSU, so I swapped in a 450W Allied.... More to follow...

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Polygon
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After posting the above screen shots, I spent the next 3 weeks fighting the "Windows Freeze" issue... This was right after swapping the PCI-x card for a AGP card and installing the Uli AGP Drivers...

Well, as a last resort, I uninstalled the AGP Drivers and,... yep.. They were causing Windows freeze when clocked above 250...

Here's something I've never been able to complete at 320 HTT with the divider set to 1:1 Time for the 32Meg SuperPI is slow because I running IDE drives......:
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What do you mean by "Windows freeze"?

I'm pretty sure 3D performance sucked without the GART driver, right?

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A64 3000+ E6 260*9 1.45v
ASRock 939Dual SATAII BIOS 1.20
2GB Patriot XBLK PC3200 260 3-4-4-10 2.7v
BFG 6800GT 415/1100
NEC 3500A
ASUS 52X Burner
Samsung 250GB SataII
Maxtor 120GB
Antec TruePower 430

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Polygon
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"Windows Freeze"

1. At the start of loading Windows when the small blue progress bar goes from left to right(W2K), the boot progress would just cease. Only a hard reset would reboot the computer to the same problem once again.

2. When in Windows, all of a sudden the cursor would not move under mouse control. No keys function would function normally. Only a hard reset would reboot the computer.


Reducing the HTT/FSB to 250 would allow the system to function normally... I haven't tried 3D Mark, but I will.....

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I'm about to assemble my configuiration tomorrow
146 opteron, asrock dual sata, G.Skill F1-3200DSU2-1GBFX 1GB PC3200 memory and a 9600xt.

I'm am wondering which is the best way to go with the agp driver. Are you suggesting that we don't load any at all or just the one that comes with the board.

Thanks for all the work you have done exploring this board.

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Welcome to The Rebels Haven Humanbeing!

I guess the answer is to use the Mainboard CD and not load the Uli AGP Driver, initally.... Test the system and see what your 3D performance is....

I don't think the AGP driver is needed for PCI-X cards, but I'm not 100% on that...

In the "Help Needed..." thread is a link for the Uli integrated Drivers. That may work better. No reports on that as yet...

Anyhow, welcome aboard... [ThumbsUp]

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Polygon very nice work, I was following your progress in the 939Dual-SATA2 Discussion Thread .... methinks you went through some real trials & tribulations with this board, and the end results you've achieved have been well worth it ... I've just ordered the asrock as a cheap way of entering 64Bit processing, your testing has saved me, and probably many others, hours of work getting the board up & running to it's full potential ... many thanks
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Thanks for the kind words and let us know how you make out.... [Smile]

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Thanks for the invaluable testing and submitted results Polygon, I usually only ever buy proven top quality OC'ing boards but you have made it very hard NOT to purchase this model, especially seeing it has SATA 2 [respect]

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Welcome to The Rebels Haven alpha0ne !

Let us know how you make out and if you have trouble, we're here... [Smile]

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Show me any other $70US board that can do this:

Test Specs:
ASRock 939Dual SATA2 oCWB1 BIOS
Opteron 148 CABYE 0540FPBW
Maze4 Water Block
G.Skill 2X256 "LE" Slots 1&2
Memory Timings: 200 1T 2.5-3-3-7
HTT: 3X
Vcore: 1.65
Vdimm: 3.13V
Vid Cd: GF3-TI200
Allied 450W

SuperPI Mod1.4 1 Million Calculations:  -

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what's the default voltage for that core?
Ok, my real question is, how high of a vcore would it be semi-safe to go on my san-diego 3700+ core?

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Corsair TwinXMS3200 C2 @ 262 3-4-4-6-2T
Radeon 9800pro @ 423/372, WD 160G sata, Vantec stealth 520 PSU
all in a ThermaltakeXaserV

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I think it's listed as being 1.35-1.45Vcore...

I think as long as the temps are kept below 60C, even 1.7Vcore is fine.... I have the same SD as you and have run tests at 1.75Vcore....

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I'm in the middle of testing the Biostar 6100-939 and while it's a nice little board, the ASRock is the King of the under $100 club! As a matter-of-fact, this little $68US board can overclock as high as any board, at any price..... With the right parts of course(no suprise)...

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